Some Christians struggle with a sin, perhaps masturbation addiction, alcohol addiction, a bad cursing habit, or what have you, and they worry whether or not they’re actually saved because they keep doing this sin over and over and over and over. They try not to do it, they really try, but no matter how hard they try just can’t shake this bad habit. I’m very sympathetic to these people. I know exactly what this is like. The reason these people feel like they’re not saved comes from passages in scripture which seem to suggest as much. For example, Hebrews 10:26 says “Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.”
1 John 3:6-9 says “No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you about this: When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning Is Of The Devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God.”
So, what so we make of these verses? Are these Christians right? Are they not really saved just because they keep doing the same thing over and over? I don’t think so. Not necessarily at least. What The Bible is talking about in all of these instances is a purposeful immoral life. Hebrews 10:26 says “If we continue deliberately sinning….” The key word in this passage is “deliberately” which means “on purpose” or to go out of your way to sin. This passage is talking about people who receive The Holy Spirit, they’ve received Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and yet at some point in their walk with Christ they decide to commit sins on purpose, not caring about whether or not their actions please or displeases Jesus. Now, this passage is used by many Arminians to support their argument that it’s possible for a person to lose their salvation, and I would certainly agree that this passage certainly seems to be saying that apostasy is a real possibility. People who argue that you can’t lose your salvation would say that if a person deliberately sins, they were never really saved in the first place since a truly saved person would never desire to return to their unbelief. This is a different issue altogether and it’s not the point of this post to defend either position on whether one can lose their salvation or not. To tell you the truth, I’m not sure where I stand on the issue myself. On the one hand, there are many passages which seem to suggest you can apostatize after being genuinely saved (such as Hebrews 10) but there are other passages which seem to suggest you can’t (such as John 10:28-29). But my point is, the passage is addressing people who sin on purpose and don’t even try to do otherwise.
The verses in 1 John 3 are also talking about deliberately sinning even though the apostle John doesn’t use the word “deliberately”. But what John does say is that if we make a practice of sinning, we are not saved. There’s a difference between committing sin and practicing sin. Committing sin is when you occasionally stumble in your walk with Christ into sin. Practicing sin is sinning on a repeated, ongoing basis without any care at all about whether or not what you’re doing is evil or immoral. For example, someone who’s seduced into sleeping with a woman commits a sin, but he’s not practicing sin, he just fell in a moment of weakness. Contrast that with a person who goes and hires a prostitute on a weekly basis. He purposefully goes out of his way to find a woman (who he doesn’t even know) to fornicate with! The person in the latter example is practicing sin. Obviously he’s not saved.
One of the signs of a born again Christian is that even if he doesn’t have victory over his sins, he fights those sins mightily until the day he dies. Why? Because a truly born again Christian finds his faults and his sins appalling. He won’t be able to help but war against his flesh because now he no longer desires to sin, he desires to do the will of God. If you sin, confess your sins to God and He will forgive you (1 John 1:9). Get back up and try again. The very fact that you’re concerned about it and want to obey the commands of Christ in scripture is evidence that you are saved. Non-saved people don’t care about whether they sin or not. Only God’s children worry about whether they are living the way He intended for them to
We will continue to stumble until the day we die. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t TRY not to sin. As I said, a truly born again Christian won’t be able to help but fight against his evil desires because his sin will stink to him, being a new creation in Christ. In this life, we’ll always find some fault in ourselves, but in the sanctification process, Jesus will have transformed us. We will have victory over certain bad habits in this life. It may take a while, but I’m confident we will find the way. Jesus won’t leave us in our bondage.
The Apostle Paul struggled with sin as well. He wrote in his letter to the Romans,
“So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.” – Romans 7:23-25
Paul said that he did what he did not want to do, and that he did not do what he wanted to do. I think every or most Christians can relate to that passage. Paul was truly saved, in fact he was chosen by Jesus to be a witness to the gentiles, but he still wrestled with the flesh. We don’t know what sin or sins Paul was struggling with. The Bible doesn’t say. But that doesn’t matter to the point I’m trying to make. The point is, even if we’re losing the battles with our sin, the very fact that we’re fighting against them is evidence that we’re saved because unsaved people are apathetic about their sins. Paul was saved, that’s why he confessed his frustration in continuing to lose the battle against his flesh in his letter to the Romans. Certain sins that I struggle with now that were left over from my life before I knew Christ reminds me of this fact. Before I knew Christ, I didn’t care whether they were sins or not, after I came to Christ, I cared very much because I wanted to please Jesus and wanted His approval in all that I did. Moreover, I must stress again that sanctification is a slow process. Whatever sins we’re losing the battle with now, we will most likely win later. For example, a Christian may struggle with masturbation addiction or cursing for years until he finally conquers it. We just need to be patient, we need to trust Jesus, and we need to never give up the fight. Not giving up hope is the hardest part. When you’ve been defeated over and over and over and over (in any area of your life), it’s hard not to give into defeatism. But we mustn’t give up the fight! We must fight on! We must not quit! Fighting against the sin nature is the best way to love Jesus with all of our strength (Deuteronomy 6:5, Matthew 22:37-38, Mark 12:30, Luke 10:25-28).
If you’re struggling with a bad habit you just can’t seem to shake, I have some book recommendations that might help you. These books by no means are a substitute for Christian counseling, but that doesn’t mean they won’t be helpful to you.
*“The Willpower Instinct” by Dr. Kelly Mcgonial
*“The Bondage Breaker” by Neil T Anderson
*”Delivered By Desire” by Daryl Wingerd
*“Every Man’s Battle” by David Afterburn and Fred Stoeker
*“Everyone’s Guide To Demons and Spiritual Warfare” by Ron Phillips
*And of course, “The Bible”.
“if anyone does sin, we have an advocate who pleads our case before the
Father. He is Jesus Christ, the one who is truly righteous.” – 1 John 2:1
We are not to make practice of sin (1 John 3:6-9), but if we do sin, we have an advocate to intercede to God The Father for us (1 John 2:1) and fortunately, if we confess our sins to Him (1 John 1:9) and truly feel remorseful for what we’ve done, with every intention to turn away from our wrong doing (Isaiah 55:7), Jesus will forgive us of our sins and cleanse us with the blood that He shed for us on the cross.
I am that guy. I repeatedly sin, and don’t fight it. I wanted to be saved, to have what believers claim to have, but I just can’t seem to do what is necessary. I don’t have that certain something that would make my weak faith real. I try, but decades of seeking and not finding have worn me down.
Salvation I’m told, is a gift. But every other gift I’ve received didn’t include the struggle to make sure I *really* accepted the gift, nor did my actions afterwards determine if I had *truly* accepted the gift.
Hey friend, I’ve been like this before, where I’ve been tempted to sin but don’t fight it, then feel like I’m not or never have been saved.
Even now I still struggle with my flesh. But believe this, god loves you, he wants you to be saved just as much as you do. The fact that you know yourself to be a sinner is the first step to be saved, the second step is to confess with your mouth that jesus is the lord who died for your sins and believe in your heart that he was raised on the 3rd day. Salvation is instantaneous. God will then think of you as possessing jesus righteousness. God doesn’t forgive reluctantly, it gives him pleasure to do so. Nothing will separate you from the love of god again not even death.
You may think to yourself “how do I know that I’m saved if I keep sinning?” For as long as we live on earth we will never stop sinning for we two natures, the nature of the flesh and the nature of the spirit. They are constantly battling each other, one leads to death the other leads to eternal life.
So continue to walk in the spirit and don’t be discourage when you sin. Confess when you do and it will bring pleasure to God to forgive you.
I have difficulty stopping sexual lust, and the bible warnings about eternal suffering for those who consistently and consciously commit any sin has made me unsure if I’m saved for most of my life. I’m 31 years old as of this writing. I sometimes control myself for a few days longer than usual, which amounts to four days. Most of the time I lust every two days. Shortly after I do that I get more doubt than usual that there’s life after death and that God is real. This doesn’t get so intense that I struggle to function normally, but lately I’ve been having worse doubt that God’s real after lusting because his relation to time confuses me. also hate how little sexual interest women have shown in men compared to how often men have that interest in women, and it makes me feel like that desire is a waste of passion in men most of the time. I’ve seen people say that if you still have the desire to sin even if you stop yourself, you likely aren’t saved, because saved people desire to be more like how God says to be and consistently become more like that. They often call consistent conscious sin habitual sin. I also wonder if hating the belief that God won’t restore all good things he made forever is sin. Many Christians think there being no more sea in Revelation is literal, which would also leave many animals dead, and that horrifies me to think any being would have no hope after death. Their lives would be a waste. I feel the same about the interpretation of no more marrying and being given in marriage meaning the state of marriage being eliminated forever. I’m certain that getting rid of a desire for something God made in nature to enjoy is manipulation of free will.
There’s a whole lot here to talk about. First, let me just say that Christians who take the idea of God, getting rid of the sea in Revelation literally are most likely not correct. Anyone familiar with how the sea is used in the old testament will know that it was often used as a symbol for a chaos and disorder. I talk about this in my series on Genesis 1-11. Typically there was a multi headed sea dragon called Leviathan or Rahab who was used as that symbol (since in Jewish folklore it lived there). John is most likely tracking with that Old Testament line of thinking and is saying that there will be no more chaos or disorder. Everything will be perfect.
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Now, as for lust, I really feel for you. I suspect that you might be under the common misconception that lust is sexual desire, or sexual attraction sinpliciter. And if that’s the case, you’re condemning yourself for something that is completely natural and God-given. Now, if you’re pining after married women, that’s a different story. But if you just a beautiful woman and you find her sexy, that’s just normal! I would recommend you check out my video “Exegeting The Sermon On The Mount (Part 5) – What Adultery Is and Is Not” for a full examination of Jesus’ command not to “lust” and what that really means and doesn’t mean. –> https://www.youtube.com/live/7YiMq6Mo9Qg?si=cnSurxpd3nYkKZwc
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To “look after a woman with lust in your heart” is not mere sexual attraction or even sexual desire. And it’s not a sin that can be committed between two unmarried people (it’s adultery of the heart, and adultery is a marital violation). Jesus is saying not to pine after married women. Because, Jesus isn’t just concerned about our behavior, but about the kind of people we are. We don’t have to worry about committing adultery if we don’t lust after married women, or if we don’t lust after women at all, if we are married ourselves. Just as we don’t have to worry about murdering someone if we don’t let ourselves get filled with murderous rage. See the video for a more thorough explanation. I think the idea of “lust” as Jesus talks about it in the Sermon On The Mount is widely misunderstood. Most preachers grossly distort Jesus’ teaching here.
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Finally, how would God “getting rid of a desire for something made in nature to enjoy” is “a manipulation of free will? How is our free will manipulated? This isn’t at all clear to me.
Evan, I know sexual attraction isn’t lust, but I do often fantasize, look at sexualized images and masturbate. The only thing I know to do about that is think of other things, but I don’t like anything else as much as sexual stimulation. I just need to keep thinking of other things. I also heard from a friend at a bible study he lead that saying you’re going to try to stop something is an excuse to justify you doing it. It conditions you to think that just the effort you’ve given is trying and so you don’t succeed. That’s the best I know how to describe what he said. A few people at another bible study I used to go to said the same thing.
Getting rid of a desire for any sensation God made us to enjoy is manipulation of free will because it makes us unable to have that anymore. It’s not like with not wanting sin anymore because sin is just a way of trying to satisfy one of those desires, but is missing something to fulfill it and keeps us unsatisfied. They distract from the rest of what will satisfy that desire.
I would recommend checking out the website http://www.MyChainsAreGone.org or, for a fuller treatment, the book “Surprised Into Freedom: The Effortless Obliteration Of Lust and Body Shame” by Phillip Oak. I used to struggle with the same sin you’re describing. For 15 years, I’ve tried to quite masturbating to nudes to no avail. I prayer and prayed and searched the scriptures for answers. I tried every quit porn strategy mainstream Christianity has to offer. The problem was that I was fighting it the wrong way. I was trying to white knuckle my urges while believing lies about the human body that our churches have taught us. If you feel like you have tried everything and are as desperate as I was to get freed, I highly recommend checking out these resources. Thid method to fighting lust isn’t what you will typically hear from the Every Man’s Battle cult.
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And btw, this article was a result of my research because I was struggling with that very sin. I doubted whether or not I was even saved. And so I looked into it, and I wrote down what I had learned.
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Before I forget, MyChainsAreGone.org is completely free. It’s not like these other porn, fighting resources that will charge you an arm and a leg for the cost of your freedom.
Thank you. I’ll read it. I realized I wasn’t saved because even if I didn’t sexually lust and think of other things, I still like the idea of sexual stimulation from visuals alone. Most of the time I was on the phone with my mom last night, I was in a position with my body folded down on my lap from how upset I was. I was by my bedroom door, in front of my plastic lamp. I cried a little when I first talked to her. I’d been telling her all my salvation concerns since 2020. We prayed for me to rededicate my life to God but I still worried about why I didn’t love God. Not being sure if God will restore all creation and life will be like how it was in Eden made it feel like my options could either be eternal suffering or having to lose care for anything I love forever. That feels like manipulation of free will. I know God can’t do that, though. How does someone care only about a restored relationship with God and those who are saved? How do I stop hating what I do about women? That’s another thing I used to justify hating God. What can I do about my heart, and what can only God do? For most of my life, I thought love for God comes partly from gratefulness from the pleasure we get from creation as well as what Jesus did, but also because that includes hope of all creation being restored. Since my brief idea of how being in love satisfies sex desire in 2022, I’d been hoping that happens again, but I wonder if that was incorrect even though I hated lust because of it. I wondered if my greatest hopes besides salvation are idolatry. It felt like someone was pressing my heart from how much fear all this was giving me last night and this morning.
In 2020 one morning I was reading about what a christian is and was having bad fear because of doubt I’m saved. I was crying a little when I told my mom about it and she said the night before she had a dream and realized it was about me. She said I was a baby in it and that her and a friend were moving an empty bookshelf into a house. When going through the hall her friend drops it on me and my mom rushed to me. While getting closer she saw Jesus and an angel pick it up and when she held me she sensed I had three broken ribs and was dead but was coming back to life. In November that year she was told by God to pray for me and she cane to me quickly. While she prayed she said she was having a vision of me in a brown jumpsuit and I took it off and I was wearing a blue one. She said God said my healing is coming soon. In 2022, I think also in November, she told me she had a dream of me and a woman who’s face she couldn’t see, but she had black hair and her head went up to my shoulders. She said we were praying and doing other things and that I was the happiest I’ve ever been. At the end of my mom’s prayer over the phone she also mentioned that in the dream of me and the woman there was a storm outside where we were. We were looking through a window and went to hold hands, and my mom said we complemented each other. I think she meant being well suited for each other, not word compliments.
I prayed earlier today to give my life to God. I prayed that despite me not being sure if I’m sincere, I’m trusting Him to change me and help me focus on his love to overcome temptations to sin. I prayed that I know that only He satisfies and to have ever better knowledge of who He is and what His love includes despite uncertainties about that too.
Me and my dad went to see someone about a few jobs at his house. The person who’s trailer we were at told my dad about him. We were at the other guys house for what felt like an hour and a half. He said he’s a christian who was once Catholic but stopped believing it because he was abused by some preists and had some interesting stories for us. He survived cancer twice, and the second time, the doctors were so he would die that they write a death certificate. While dead, he was in heaven and saw people he didn’t think would be there. When he came back, he grabbed the doctors arm and freaked him out. His conversion happened when he was a drug addict. He was going to shoot himself by a lake, but right before he could, a man and woman came, and the woman shouted that Jesus doesn’t want this. He said to not mess with him and that he’s evil. He shot the fully loaded gun into the lake twice, but when he tried to shoot the man, it didn’t work. The same thing happened when he tried to shoot himself next. I think it’s interesting to learn of miracles like that the day I got saved.
It sounds like you’ve had a really tough time. I feel for you and plan on keeping you in my prayers. Fortuitously, Phillip Oak’s book “Surprised Into Freedom” is free on Kindle right now, but it’s only for this weekend. So as of righting this comment, MyChainsAreGone.org isn’t your only free resource.
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May The Lord bless you and keep you. May He make His face shine upon you.
You can’t out sin the grace of God. Those who say you can are those who are not saved themselves they don’t know the gospel. The Bible says if you don’t know the gospel you don’t know God. 2 Thessalonians 1: 8-9
Thank you! I struggle with homosexuality. I hate it. I’ve prayed many many times for complete deliverance, and God has not given it to me. I will trust Him. I do not like dealing with this. Several men have (literally) gone out of their way to avoid me; two other brothers said I could “come to them and (engage in a sex act)” when I felt tempted. For almost 2 decades I just completely gave up. i still tried to avoid sin, but was not always successful. I also found that sometimes when I made efforts to avoid sin and to say no, that temptations actually found me (I was walking down the street of a busy road, once and a good-looking male jogger came towards me – I could not help noticing that his manhood bounced.)
I asked Jesus Christ to come into my life and save me, when I was 15. I KNEW I was changed; I KNEW that I was a different person! I’ve done things of fwhich I’m now very ashamed. I’ve worred that I was really lost. But I pray several times a day, and I read God’s Wrod, daily. I’ve stepped out in faith, believing that I am indeed cleansed, and born again. First Corinthians 6:9-11 is one of my favorite passages.
Thank you for your thanks. I am glad God could comfort you through my humble little blog.